Debian apt security update (man-in-the-middle)

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75 points | by SG- 2 hours ago ago

12 comments

  • justicz an hour ago

    I found this! I posted a semi-click-bait-ey tweet about it here [0], I think it’s important for people know how easy these bugs are to find now. It’s becoming borderline irresponsible not to audit your internet-facing code with modern AI tools.

    [0] https://x.com/just1cz/status/2118009777922228361

    • sczi an hour ago

      Nice work! A similar vulnerability in 2019 also found by you included the recommendation to update with:

        apt -o Acquire::http::AllowRedirect=false update
        apt -o Acquire::http::AllowRedirect=false upgrade
      
      Since this also involves redirects, would that protect users while updating apt for this one also?
    • justicz an hour ago

      Speaking of which… if any of y’all work on security at OpenAI I have some questions for you about Daybreak! Please email me

  • hollow-moe 35 minutes ago

    But how do I update apt if apt is untrustable until fixed ? Good ol' .deb scp'd in dpkg'd.

  • thewisenerd 2 hours ago
  • SoftTalker an hour ago

    How would an attacker inject a redirect into an apt package download?

    • mikepurvis an hour ago

      MITM on the network, I guess like DNS takeover or the like.

      So you pass through the upstream headers but then simulate a failure/resume and supply different contents for the resumed download.

      • SoftTalker an hour ago

        So apt doesn't verify signatures on what is actually downloaded?

        • dinosaurdynasty 43 minutes ago

          > Improper file handling when resuming an HTTP download allows a man-in-the-middle attacker to replace a package after verification

          from the OP

          APT can use HTTPS, but often doesn't, making a MITM attack easier (also the idea for a long time has been signatures are enough, and/or TLS certs used to be a lot harder to get, but at this point you should really be using both).

          • SoftTalker 21 minutes ago

            Still doesn't make sense to me. So package A is downloaded, signature verified, then package B is downloaded, but somehow the package A file is replaced? Is it something like that?

  • 8organicbits 2 hours ago

    I feel like they should release manual update instructions since the update mechanism is vulnerable. Although I see my systems already updated via unattended upgrades.

    edit: On lobste.rs I see a recommendation for `apt download`: https://lobste.rs/s/h7bvma/man_middle_arbitrary_code_executi...

  • ChrisArchitect 34 minutes ago