So this is announcement. I was thinking if it is going to be Omarchy Server edition. But reading the names of all founding members I can see why it is worth the hype.
I guess for now most people will be trying Omarchy on their old PC laptops. Especially when new one is expensive. It would be great if there are certain test case or certification to make sure given laptops works with Omarchy.
I don't think there has been anything close to Omarchy for Linux Desktop momentum. ChromeOS isn't one because most of it usage is like a consumption devices appliance used for education. And those Download numbers and Internet video views seems to back it up.
There are roughly 30 - 50M professional software developers, I wouldn't be surprised if it is closer to 100M if we include hobbyist and other adjacent roles. Even if it is 10% of this market is a sizeable trunk.
On the other hand it is sad to witness the birth of Omarchy is precisely because of Apple macOS, iOS and its software ecosystem. I hope we have more senior leadership changes in the coming months once John is officially CEO.
I installed Omarchy on an old laptop yesterday and was impressed with the smooth installation. The UI is definitely a different approach, I can see any developer who prefers the keyboard to the mouse would love it.
Good to see some innovation. Desktop Linux feels like it has been stalled for years and needs new ideas.
Also, having an AI to pre-flight compatibility issues and help with UEFI and BIOS configs makes life so much more pleasant.
Switching to Omarchy was one of the best decisions I made last year that improved my everyday computing experience so much, and introduced me to so many amazing tools like neovim, tmux, tiling window managers, Arch Linux, and countless TUIs.. Haven't touched my old MacBook this year at all.
If you're in the market for a new laptop / operating system, I highly recommend you give it a try.
Lots of negativity in this post. As someone who is an engineer and not a software engineer, this has improved my technical capability tremendously by giving me training wheels and removed decision paralysis because there's so much crap out there and everyone is so opinionated. I don't have time to try out pi and herdr and opencode and codex...
Was about to sell the parts of my old Haswell Hackintosh which I did replace with a M1 Mac Mini a couple of years ago after 10 years in use, but now I might just dust off my old Lian Li case build it back together for Omarchy as my dev and tinker machine. Still has double the RAM of my Mini..
I highly encourage anyone e.g. on MacOS to get a cheap laptop and give Omarchy a try. My feeling of using this system compared to MacOS is a whole another level. And now one of the promises of Omarchy Quattro is that AI agents will help you tweak it to your liking very easily, avoiding having to spend dozens of hours ricing your system.
"what the malleable computer of the future looks like" ??? Excuse me? This is just a linux shell script repository. What is the point of having $8m to maintain a shell script?
Omarchy Quattro is pretty dang good. It's a lot more than any shell script I've written, certainly. If you've written a more complex one I'd love to see it.
Having agents in the default environment, having everything configurable through text files, and having default agents automatically file bug reports on crashes - these are tangible quality of life improvements that you can't get on other systems.
Maybe Windows and MacOS should write some shell scripts.
Might be shocking, but entirely true: They might have shared secret and private plans of what they're building to investors (donators?), where "malleable computer" is a part of those plans, and the full 100% implementation might not be in the source repository at this very moment. Just a guess from my side though, who knows, maybe shellscripts are what they see as malleable computers?
Does anyone have experience with Dell XPS / Omarchy/Arch and docking stations? I've had a lot of trouble getting it to work reliably with my ThinkPad. I'd switch if I knew it was plug and play on Arch/Omarchy.
insofar as this gets people off macos/windows and onto linux, especially among younger people where macos has managed to hold on to the position of a default that developers are comfortable e.g. being the only platform they support, this is a good thing imo
the fact that it's largely hype-driven is par for the course for how things work these days
I'm more excited to get up and use my computer on Omarchy. Working on it feels more like a video game where I have to solve fun puzzles everyday.
I run it on a Framework Laptop 12, an old MBP, and a recently built gaming PC (VR primarily). There are tradeoffs, but I haven't enjoyed working on computers this much since the 2010 era, first learning to build web apps with Ruby on Rails. The distro is merely 6 gigs and takes minutes to install. And the video DHH just released Quattro with is worth a watch to get a feel for it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7fe9pa8OeE
I installed Arch from scratch. Honestly, other than a couple of minor "squirrel catchers" associated with disk formatting it isn't that big of a deal. You don't have to be a graybeard monk to use Linux - Omarchy or not.
So this is announcement. I was thinking if it is going to be Omarchy Server edition. But reading the names of all founding members I can see why it is worth the hype.
I guess for now most people will be trying Omarchy on their old PC laptops. Especially when new one is expensive. It would be great if there are certain test case or certification to make sure given laptops works with Omarchy.
I don't think there has been anything close to Omarchy for Linux Desktop momentum. ChromeOS isn't one because most of it usage is like a consumption devices appliance used for education. And those Download numbers and Internet video views seems to back it up.
There are roughly 30 - 50M professional software developers, I wouldn't be surprised if it is closer to 100M if we include hobbyist and other adjacent roles. Even if it is 10% of this market is a sizeable trunk.
On the other hand it is sad to witness the birth of Omarchy is precisely because of Apple macOS, iOS and its software ecosystem. I hope we have more senior leadership changes in the coming months once John is officially CEO.
What would be the point of Omarchy Server? I thought the desktop experience was the main selling point...
I installed Omarchy on an old laptop yesterday and was impressed with the smooth installation. The UI is definitely a different approach, I can see any developer who prefers the keyboard to the mouse would love it.
Good to see some innovation. Desktop Linux feels like it has been stalled for years and needs new ideas.
Also, having an AI to pre-flight compatibility issues and help with UEFI and BIOS configs makes life so much more pleasant.
Switching to Omarchy was one of the best decisions I made last year that improved my everyday computing experience so much, and introduced me to so many amazing tools like neovim, tmux, tiling window managers, Arch Linux, and countless TUIs.. Haven't touched my old MacBook this year at all.
If you're in the market for a new laptop / operating system, I highly recommend you give it a try.
Hadn't realised (until your comment) that Omarchy doesn't work on non-intel macs; that's a shame. https://github.com/basecamp/omarchy/blob/quattro/manual/44-m...
Intel Macs have first party Linux drivers. They're much easier to support since they just behave like any normal x86 laptop would.
Lots of negativity in this post. As someone who is an engineer and not a software engineer, this has improved my technical capability tremendously by giving me training wheels and removed decision paralysis because there's so much crap out there and everyone is so opinionated. I don't have time to try out pi and herdr and opencode and codex...
I use it every day for work and it is really fun. It's different from Mac and takes a while to get the gist of it, but for me it has been worth it.
I don't care if people see it as a hyped-up collection of scripts, it's calm and fun.
Was about to sell the parts of my old Haswell Hackintosh which I did replace with a M1 Mac Mini a couple of years ago after 10 years in use, but now I might just dust off my old Lian Li case build it back together for Omarchy as my dev and tinker machine. Still has double the RAM of my Mini..
> Weâre going to make the prophecy of The Year of Linux on the Desktop come true. All the pieces are now in place. Time to go all in!
Let's go :)
TIL a really good r/unixporn post is worth $8M
I highly encourage anyone e.g. on MacOS to get a cheap laptop and give Omarchy a try. My feeling of using this system compared to MacOS is a whole another level. And now one of the promises of Omarchy Quattro is that AI agents will help you tweak it to your liking very easily, avoiding having to spend dozens of hours ricing your system.
"what the malleable computer of the future looks like" ??? Excuse me? This is just a linux shell script repository. What is the point of having $8m to maintain a shell script?
Omarchy Quattro is pretty dang good. It's a lot more than any shell script I've written, certainly. If you've written a more complex one I'd love to see it.
Having agents in the default environment, having everything configurable through text files, and having default agents automatically file bug reports on crashes - these are tangible quality of life improvements that you can't get on other systems.
Maybe Windows and MacOS should write some shell scripts.
> default agents automatically file bug reports on crashes
Is this only sending bug reports to Omarchy or to the upstream developers? I'm not sure many of them would be fond of AI slop bug reports en masse.
Might be shocking, but entirely true: They might have shared secret and private plans of what they're building to investors (donators?), where "malleable computer" is a part of those plans, and the full 100% implementation might not be in the source repository at this very moment. Just a guess from my side though, who knows, maybe shellscripts are what they see as malleable computers?
I think it's implemented and demoed in the Quattro release
I have had so much fun with Omarchy! great news!
Does anyone have experience with Dell XPS / Omarchy/Arch and docking stations? I've had a lot of trouble getting it to work reliably with my ThinkPad. I'd switch if I knew it was plug and play on Arch/Omarchy.
insofar as this gets people off macos/windows and onto linux, especially among younger people where macos has managed to hold on to the position of a default that developers are comfortable e.g. being the only platform they support, this is a good thing imo
the fact that it's largely hype-driven is par for the course for how things work these days
These guys are fighting the good fight.
This is dope. Love to see any efforts to get Linux on the desktop more ready to use.
Must be nice to have 1M to throw into hobby projects, happy for them.
(vaguely) related: DHH is appearing live on Primeagen's twitch/yt/kick channel in 5 min (10am PST).
https://www.twitch.tv/theprimeagen
I'm more excited to get up and use my computer on Omarchy. Working on it feels more like a video game where I have to solve fun puzzles everyday.
I run it on a Framework Laptop 12, an old MBP, and a recently built gaming PC (VR primarily). There are tradeoffs, but I haven't enjoyed working on computers this much since the 2010 era, first learning to build web apps with Ruby on Rails. The distro is merely 6 gigs and takes minutes to install. And the video DHH just released Quattro with is worth a watch to get a feel for it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7fe9pa8OeE
Same here. Using my ThinkPad became much more fun after I installed Omarchy on it.
Breathing new life into old hardware is such a refreshing feeling!
macOS is finally getting some serious competition with an open platform!
Isnât Omarchy a vibe coded Linux distro with Claude?
Seems you can just vibe code anything and get funding for slop if youâre rich.
If this is needed for the âyear of Linux on the desktopâ have at it I guess.
It's Linux for very young men who don't use Linux.
I installed Arch from scratch. Honestly, other than a couple of minor "squirrel catchers" associated with disk formatting it isn't that big of a deal. You don't have to be a graybeard monk to use Linux - Omarchy or not.
What don't you like about Omarchy? I'm not young and I used Fedora before Omarchy. I think it's excellent
The last state of Omarchy to me was its arch but a script to install that one guys dot files.
Nobody has given me a reason to move of Fedora Atomics.
What makes it for very young men?
For what its worth, I am part of the very young men you mention* (currently 18) and I have talked to people my age on discord who use Linux.
My opinion is that I think that cachyos is a much more suitable option over omarchy.
Personally out of so many of the distros that I have tried including Omarchy, I found Cachyos to be somewhat perfectly balanced (atleast for me).
So I highly recommend Cachyos if you haven't already!
(On a side note: Fedora is something that I wish to try a bit more as well to be honest and for servers, I mostly use debian/ubuntu or alpine)
You young people have it good. When I was 18 I started with Slackware.
First put $1M of your own money into a project then talk
> Seems you can just X anything and get funding for slop if youâre rich.
Always been true, extra true for people who are "famous" in their niche(s).
Vibe coded techbro Linux? No, thanks.